Rural mail talk Don Maston is president of the National Rural Letter Carriers’ Association, which has more than 130,000 members delivering mail to rural and suburban communities throughout the Rural carrier news of solidarity and union support sharing information about our rural craft to educate rural carriers across America. Jul 26, 2022 #14 Aux running RCAs earn leave. O. I thought rural carriers were able to request the number of hours that is closet to their evaluation, rather than having to take a full 8 hours. as having If you do Load Truck and you aren’t in StartLoadVehicle of Rural carrier scans (R and then 6), you get nothing. Jul 14, 2019 #10 w2e2w2e said: Seems to this ghost that Federal laws don't extend or apply to rural rules. Upvote 0 Downvote. Over Christmas, I worked 22 days straight. One of which is my sub's BFF. Terms and rules; I feel with how variable rrecs is routes should not be cut unless the carrier wants it cut or they are at risk of 2080 problems. We only have one 48k in our office and it is being cut and being handed over to the neighboring route to build it up as it's an Aux. RRECS box coverage WELCOME Rural Letter Carriers! This is a Rural Carrier group ONLY. I cannot find a fillable PDF 8191 to post. A 4 hr Aux shows 1 RRECS - Rural Route Evaluated Compensation System . The president of the National Rural Letter Carriers’ Association discusses President Trump’s push to privatize the Postal Service. 0795 minutes or 4. RRECS detailed calculations by C$$ Threads 1. When will something like this be resolved one way or another? The person has not been back to A. Oct 19, 2024 4 routes in office. Hello, I am pretty sure I read somewhere that the MDD was not to be used to issue discipline. First if routes are already non Saturday relief days are they part of the formula? So if a few of the junior carriers already have Monday would they have to change days? Also, does if a route has a sub matter Just had our standup yesterday over this so I'm assuming this is no longer "just talk" as some are saying here. Apr 9, The NRLCA and USPS have signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) agreeing that for leave year 2025, regular work force career employees covered by the USPS-NRLCA Agreement may carry over 520 hours of accumulated annual leave from leave year 2024 to leave year 2025. 5 year steps table 1 board that hasn't delivered mail this century wouldn't understand the issue or care. Packager Well-known member. Eligible carriers did their bidding and now posting/bidding is closed after the 10 days. -- Article 30. All -- Along "Jiminy Christmas's" post, besides having rural carrier pay reduced or increased, has any office actually adjusted rural route territory or created new routes or auxiliary routes The carrier may gain mail or parcel volume or another parcel pick up and gain time or the opposite may occur. It all depends on the office and management either way get the paperwork done. I see that they reached a new tentative agreement. Register/login to save documents from the knowledgebase Disclaimer! Ruralinfo. " -- Interesting! Must be different from "locality pay", which USPS workers do not receive. Now 14 days after closing RRECS - Rural Route Evaluated Compensation System . And a SINCERE "thank you" to everyone on this forum, because I swear I wouldn't know which way was up or down without the absolute wealth of knowledge provided by the posters on rural mail talk!! For reals, everything I've learned to maximize my route evaluation under RRECS, I've learned right here. So I have been issuing PS form 4056 to the customers and I have been getting good responses. 2017 Mail truck fires; 2018 Mail Truck Fires; 2019 Mail Truck Fires; 2020 Mail truck fires; 2021 Mail Truck Fires; I will talk more with my local management people to see if I can find anything else that was in the webinar he was watching. They say don't bury the lede, so here it is: The NDI is (supposedly) unrelated to RRECS and Box Coverage. Looking at the DSM above we multiply each 100‐foot interval by 0. Apparently the PO has (at least) two programs tracking which boxes we deliver. It represents days. Does anyone know if any helpful changes to RRECS was included in this? Hi everyone. I've always thought I'd do 30 to retire but now doing the same hard work for less pay has me knowing I'm going out in 20. If someone can, we need one posted to they can be filled out and submitted as soon as carriers receive their “preliminary” evaluations. stingrayiii Well-known member. Just download it and print to keep by your case to keep up with all the important dates for rural carriers If you prefer a physical calendar you can order one of 2025 Rural Carrier Calendars. In all other respects, the -- The NRLCA ( mis- ) represents 130,000 career and non-career rural carriers. One bad season of mail or a non election year or a high volume address moves and suddenly you are back to a J. Management is to review their findings with you and give you the So this morning after leaving the office I scrolled to the bottom of the scanner to hit review entries but instead I was on the RECCS menu and hit return. 43K forever . Dec 11, 2024 #17 You all realize that Rural will not exists in a privatized environment, NO MONEY OR NOT ENOUGH WILL BE MADE IN RURAL COMMUNITIES for businesses and profit. 128 minutes per interval times 53 intervals equals 6. If you do R, then StartLoadVeh, and then do Load Truck, you get the actual extra time to do the scans as part of your load time. Click here Gotta love the Post Office. Reactions: jaymacgthree and YOUAREthecurrentresident. Reactions: Sunofa and Election Results for President Votes cast 1. I am damn proud of what I do As far as I understand it and from past experience a rural carrier, regular or RCA that has sustained an OJI and is on limited duty may be used in non rural work providing it does not exceed any medical limitations. Aug 28, 2021 #5 Talk to management and get fmla paperwork in order. Howah44 New member. View more Everyone, please help make our jobs easier and choose the correct category. usps. and 3. I just find it hypocritical that my sub would not Hypothetical Question. Aug 4, 2024 #9 I've been employed since 1997 but my 20 career years aren't for another 2 years. Wilco183 Well-known member. net is not sponsored or authorized by the NRLCA, the USPS or any state or local association. 6K Messages 50. Dec She mails rural Well-known member. Related groups. stillfirstclass Rural still over 14 years. Go. 1 craft is easier to control then 2 crafts. Until a death maybe. Even close. The Knowledgebase has been merged into this website too. B. 78 Make of copy of all your information off of eOPM! I would calculate all of your figures for yourself. If less than 10 routes, it seems almost 1 to 1 ratio,when changing relief days. gerl2 Well-known member. com Reactions: Beanut. Next Last. Y'all dive in, be sure to check out the "files" to the left of the page. Reactions: jsthere723, Tired carrier, Waltenwalt and 5 others. Getting 100 signatures is pretty significant. 6K Messages Mail Count - Archived Threads 376 Messages 5. But as to how they come up with H, J, or K. Postal News . W. Reason I feel is 43k is just a few hours above a J route. Especially my districtthink it was all city routes last time I checked. Voglio-il 1) Does the start of the 120 days begin when the sub has worked their last day, or when the job is posted? There is about a 30 day difference in our office. ( see above ). Dec 12, 2024 #16 We are deep in rrecs and still lost from what everyone is saying. Mar 25, 2025 #3 Well just as I figured, this let's our union off the hook. , She mails rural and 1 other person. The loss of a single rca may have virtually no effect, or a huge impact. RRECS - Rural Route Evaluated Compensation System. 5 days after the closing of bids, carriers were told by supervisors “unofficially” who won the bid and what route they got. PS Form 4589, Observation of Work Practices — General, is not intended for delivery service employees. A vacant route was posted in my rural route post office. I personally believe they want to do away with us and turn us into the city. S. Perfect. The leave replacement will serve only the primary assignment and may also deliver parcels on any rural route and on Sundays and holidays in the assigned office during these pay periods. I would imagine the unions wouldn't go away quietly, wouldn't you agree? Would they use union funds to fund law A-111 -- Management can adjust any rural route as necessary to ensure 2,080 actual work hour control and satisfactory levels of customer service. Reactions: Cliff Clavin, sebastian_22, Got mail? and 4 others. High 36 month period (high 3); example mine 46J for 3 months, 47K for 3 months, 48K for 16 months, 46J was before the back pay 2021 contract, then part of 48 was before and after the big increase of COLA, and then finally the 1st few months of my currect "Since the National Agreement and the ELM ARE SILENT on the issue of response time for requests for annual leave, and there are no Step 4 decisions on this matter, the approved language from THE NATIONAL RURAL LETTER CARRIER remains the best reference for determining general policy. Don't we request annual leave by the hour? (Example) On a 7. Does our AL get fronted on pay period 1 or the first full pay period in 2025 which would be Pay Period 3 beginning January 11th? So if someone who used all their AL days in 2024 wanted to take an AL day on January 10th would they be able to use a Reactions: Shannonboy, oi veh. This all came to head in early January. Threads 1. Thread starter Packager; Start date Sep 4, 2024; P. She mails rural Well-known member. Learn about contract negotiations, salary and EMA, mailbox improvement week, and more. Their leave is not reflected on stub as hours earned. LEFTINGUTTER Well-known member. FrozenToes Well-known "The NRLCA has been notified that less than half of the offices have credit for Safety/Service Talks entered into the Rural Management RRECS - Rural Route Evaluated Compensation System . Scanning only 5 picked up parcels. Thread starter stingrayiii; Start date Apr 9, 2025; 1; 2; Next. These are the yr/mo/dy Looks like they’re adding more rural routes from more districts on here for January. Thank you Everyone, please help make our jobs easier and choose the correct category. V. The beautiful people at the top think scraps from the table is sufficient. The new Ruralinfo. . I thought it was in the National Magazine, these two things, I would like printed procedures if you can help me Whereas rural carrier associates, (RCAs), hired as part time relief for regular rural carriers, whom are only guaranteed 1 day per week pay, yet are often worked long hours and 7 days straight, forced to travel up to 50 miles to unknown routes with little to no training, and often expected to provide their own vehicle despite a lack of consistent work hours; and whereas I knew a woman many, many years ago on a very rural route, delivered the route backwards, from drivers seat in a LHD, thought it was genius. We had a ARC on maternity Leave last year with no issues. 5 cents, effective July 1, 2023 (Pay Period 15-23) Compensation for Additional Trips I know I can comeback a 46K after mini mail survey but it means nothing. 139 Number needed 570 Bill Mea 286 Don Maston 851* It would have to be a 41J or 41K, If it were less than 42 standard hours, it would remain an Auxiliary route. Sub-forums. G. Pay Period 1 actually begins on December 14th. The person has lost the first 2 go arounds and is now appealing for the 3rd time. We had a stand up on today and had a printed-out paper from management. Anchored mail boxes get creep time, and get the averaged breadcrumbs of single post boxes. 2 k routes, 1 j route, and an aux route. 00128 minutes/foot and get 0. 2) What good does the 120 letter do? What are the consequences, if any? So we just found out we would be becoming a formula office and we had a few questions. We were informed today route cuts are coming. jsthere723 Well-known member. But then again, there are those that would rather be stubborn and difficult. Spm (sampling requests on route) Thread starter For each mail piece scanned, the route will be credited with S065 (Perform simple on‐step RRECS input scans) at 0. Make sure you play it loud enough they can hear it too. And there are subs sitting at home to get their day off and I’m forced to work Depending on the size of the office, 4 routes, or 80 routes. 18K members. E. rather than them making me take 8 hrs. After that I tried clocking out, taking the battery out, logging off, powering off, nothing worked still Texas Rural mail carrier slammed from behind near Livingston; USPS mum on plan to merge rural mail delivery hubs in Snohomish County; More rural postal workers in the US speak out about thousands in lost wages due to new compensation formula; EMA will increase 3. Jan 27, 2025 #4 Finally Regular said: Since I thought our routes would be on hold for 52 weeks per mou back in October what’s the purpose of this upcoming mini survey starting lateral part of February? But they’re not even calling other offices to see if anyone wants to work. Just like the entire rural craft has been subsidizing the postal service for over a decade. NRLCA COMPREHENSIVE GUIDE TO THE RURAL ROUTE EVALUATED COMPENSATION SYSTEM. I didn't agree with this new system in the beginning and now I still stand firm in saying it needs to stop. So if you were cut to a 43K and went back up to a 48k you will be reduced back down to the 43K. Ive been following it since September or October, most lf the rural adjustments were made in the fall and December, for now i reckon. Reactions: RDruckus, oi veh. They trained our local supervisor to do the route cuts. RRECS Interim Worksheet. Does anyone remember this issue, or am I just dreaming it up. View Find the latest news, events, and documents for rural letter carriers working for the US Postal Service. Maybe they want us done by 10 every day. We have a carrier in my office that is being held accountable for her MDD not moving for 45 minutes. RIGHT hand drive Jeeps. I went Due to continued staffing challenges in rural delivery operations, the Postal Service and the NRLCA have signed the attached MOU regarding two temporary modifications to the USPS-NRLCA National Agreement. Thank you It really does seem like their intention was to save money and essentialy destroy the rural craft. Given that Rural contracts have lagged behind other postal union contracts and competitive shipping unions until this point I wondered if people believe they will step up and Rural Mail Talk is a forum dedicated to discussing rural mail carriers. Thank you Rural Mail Talk is a forum dedicated to discussing rural mail carriers. 117-53=64 hours extra. 2 hr. I believe they were dropped shortly before the TA was announced and sent for ratification. If you try to go to the old flexible rural carrier has not been designated to serve the route, the route shall be assigned to qualified substitutes, rural carrier associates, or rural carrier relief employees assigned to that delivery unit in the order of the longest period of continuous service in the office. Then, using carts and hampers, you take the sorted mail to your vehicle, You talk about a crock of S&!t . So dangerous. On my scheduled day off was called in. You begin in the Post Office™, sorting mail in delivery sequence. ” 90 days worked (or one calendar year, whichever comes first) is for the probationary period, not for availability (Article 30. Conversely any routes that lost time from Each year, the Postal Service™ designates the third full week of May as “Mailbox Improvement Week” to encourage customers on city motorized, rural, or contract delivery service routes (formerly highway contract box delivery routes) to examine and, where necessary, improve the appearance of their mailboxes. Let's say for the sake of this hypothetical situation DOGE and The Department Of Commerce restructures the Post Office and in the process decertifies the unions. A mile in which the rural carrier is in a neighborhood and stops every 100 feet or so to service a box: In this example the mile is divided in approximate 53 intervals of 100 feet. Thank you. 8K. Deer Smearer Well-known member. members. She was let go. New RCA Rural Mail Carrier Tip 13K members. I have served as our Local Steward. Will they make an Just uploaded our new printable 2025 Rural Carrier Calendar. We have 10 of 14 rural overburdened routes now. Dec 4, Rural Carrier Occupational Code: 2325-01XX / Job Level: R-RCS-00 It was the APWU that went first and accepted what led to rural Table 2 in Arbitration. That is the person to talk to and submit comments. RURAL LETTER CARRIERS > Private group · 31K. -- That supposedly leaves 50,000 carriers available ( or nearly so ) to cover the 80,000 routes when the regular carriers needs to be off for leave, appointments, or whatever. They should be using every opportunity they get to keep it in the news and inform the rank and file. -- Those 130,000 carriers serve 80,000 routes. They seem to be under the covers of the big usps bed. Everyone, please help make our jobs easier and choose the correct category. Reactions: RDruckus, idelivermail, Tank and 4 others. In part: The rural carrier will receive reasonable advance notice when the schedule is to be changed. The central/cbu are the bane of routes with low cov % since they are only based on informed delivery: no flats, no raw letters. (26 is the maximum AL days granted rural carriers) or 117 hours you could see how it would work out fine. so they too have value regardless of mail volume . Is there any senority involved in this We have 2 rural rts and both receive "geographical pay" which I was told was extra added to our salaries because it is an area that is hard to hire in. NO management, or management adjacent Log in. Reactions: bagofrats, Beffannie, gotstamps and 3 others. Feb 6, 2025 #4 ATCBigE said: Next Safety Talk, I think this is what you do. H. 12/1 isn't good enough 🤦. Reactions: Chemado, Haygrrl, TheMailman302 and 4 others. Maston spoke with Ledyard King about President Next Safety Talk, I think this is what you do. Qualified is defined for Subsection D. let’s say I take my name off the list. Don’t want to get my hopes up, but it’s looks promising!. View Recent Threads Well this is how my day endedbut I survived and so did the mail and packages!!!!! Read More. Jul 26, 2022 #13 Anyone know what code C is on schedule? Windindaface Well-known member. Ask, learn and Vehicle, TSP, retirement, etc questions please post in the regular forums. 1. route can't I request 7 hrs. We had routes gain 25 plus hours due to this issue. J. Those of us to be cut are under evaluation every day and not a 2080 issue. You can register/login to save articles to read later and you can save documents to your account for easy access later. Membership is restricted to members of the NRLCA. Kind of sad, but so helpful and truly needed!! She mails rural Well-known member. only: dps, wss boxholders and packages count towards coverage percentage. Thank you Here's a link to the Formula Implementation Guidelines, but I encourage you to contact your union rep to discuss. They can use it They want to reduce service days in particular, and if they can’t talk congress into it because it’s a politically unpopular choice, remove the choice, Reactions: She mails rural, quietstorm, Table2blows and 8 others. Worve Well-known member. Reactions: Gotrope, oi veh. ( For RCA's -- that usually begins with "All RCA's -- come to the supervisor's desk. And it’s not just a Rural thing, there are a lot of other federal workers who got the shaft on creditable service time. I'm having difficulty finding, and I know it's out there because I've seen it but I've exhausted all my resources and can't relocate it. Scheduling. This means that there is now more mail in your case to pull down than what you've been credited for. 77 seconds per piece. -- Don't forget the NRLCA's recommended 5 minutes for weekly safety talks as noted in the mail count manuals! F. , FirstclassPITA and 2 others. How do the Saturdays get divided? Im being told Ill get one saturday off a month due the j route not being able to adjust days off. " )-- If there is an "emergency" situation, more often than not is the result of something manglement didn't do in the first place. The RCBP has been providing superior service to rural letter carriers nationwide for Total lost hours = 240. 3K. Thanks all. Be it resolved: That each rural regular carrier with any "O" time on record be paid for that time on form 8127, or given an "O" day off, if the hours are 5 or more by the end of the yearly guarantee period (rounding up to an 8 hour day). Far as I understand it, perhaps it was a stroke of luck they sandbagged it and stumbled upon charges they held over NALC pres. The step 4 that the NRLCA filed specifically states their grievance DOES NOT waive our The Rural Carrier Benefit Plan (RCBP) is the only plan dedicated to rural letter carriers, annuitants, and their families. 2. Also, include topics such as Leave Replacements, Retirement and Benefits, Mail Count, and more. These dahlias really show their colors – Floral images Rural Mail Talk; Yearly postal truck fires. I could be wrong but I This job can be physically strenuous. Apr 11, 2024 #12 DohnJalton said: Now good workers who do their scans properly will be subsidizing the bad ones that dont. Seems like a nationwide campaign to finally address this. RRECS scans on parent/child routes. 1). Enemyprancer New member. We created it with mailbox photos for You'll need the same documentation as the "DPS letters" dispute and page 85 of "the Rural route evaluated compensation system RRECS" (on the NRLCA website) The 2nd Run DPS and DPS <400/day are treated like random letters; they pay you to case them. There's been a lot of talk about carriers working off the clock, working over evaluation, and 2080/2240 issues. 1 of 2 Go to page. Worve Well-known Just curious since I recently watched a Rural Academy instructor making wild and baseless claims to new RCAs about what the new contract would guarantee so they would join the union. well they put 3 chips in a bag for H, 2 chips in bag for J, and one for K. A-111 -- Blanket adjustments solely for the purpose of involving all routes in an office should not be made. Have a person in the office that may be getting fired do to drinking on the job. 2007 (104) 2009 (104) 2012 (24) Page 3: Creditable Service, Retirement Computation, RIF Computation. S. Apr 18, 2025 #16 I have been an RCA for 9 years. calimailman Well-known member. That’s the very nature of Reactions: Wilco183, Got mail?, Voglio-il mio and 4 others. A fresh face and some new options. Apr 3, 2023; Shannonboy; Home. Sooo, if I am not scheduled in the schedule, and make a doctor’s appt, and get called in last minute, am I “required” to work? PM and toxic supervisor say that they can write me up if I do not come in. Sep 4, 2024 #1 Is there any benefit (or But I have to watch when delivering foreign pkgs, accountable mail She mails rural Well-known member. They will agree to less for us change and add stuff that hurts us then tell us we think its very good considering so don't vote no because it will be worse. That’s all you get extra. Beginning Saturday, February 22, 2025 and continuing through Friday, August 22, 2025 I'm sure the 5. Pending Route Adjustment File | PostalPro postalpro. Join group. And then when a sub does work your route, you come back to a huge mess of undeliverable packages and mail so. Please participate in any of the discussions listed on Texas Rural mail carrier slammed from behind near Livingston; USPS mum on plan to merge rural mail delivery hubs in Snohomish County; More rural postal workers in the US speak out about Members who are targeted by management for protected, concerted activity in the group are directed to the NLRB and encouraged to file charges. J route would like a different day of the week off. Join. These times are averaged over 52 weeks. The two programs are completely unrelated, and even use entirely different data sets. gotstamps Well-known member. Don Maston is president of the National Rural Letter Carriers’ Association, which has more than 130,000 members delivering mail to rural and suburban communities throughout the U. -- Be sure to note any service talk time on the 4240. Reactions: RDruckus. Management utilizes PS Form 4588, Observation of Work Practices —Delivery Services, and PS form 4584, Observation of Driving Practices, to observe performance of delivery service employees. and ATCBigE. My sub texted me to just let this one "slide". Rural Engineer Study Discussio 16K members What it says is anyone that was cut and then the route went back up will be set back to the cut hours. NALC went last and got a different (quicker) timeline for CCAs to reach pay parity with Table 1. If you don't know who that is, you can find out here National Rural Letter Carrier's Association The National Association of Letter Carriers, AFL-CIO and the United States Postal Service have reached tentative agreement on a new collective-bargaining agreement for city letter carriers Everyone, please help make our jobs easier and choose the correct category. net website is live. -- If you get a hold of someone at the District office, be sure From the results of the 2018 mail count and or to combat 2,080 problems?-- Check page 45 of the contract regarding Carrier's Rights in Route Adjustments. dkgsy zfyglsbo fnwbj kucgfj ygsrym hewn ynf kknub hkxmt vegai qgh fbpz mavyspj bye zjce